I like to pick fights with the Religious Looney Right

A few days ago I was linked an article that was being presented to churches throughout Southern California regarding Proposition 8, and so, I decided to play tit for tat with the article's author (Tony Nassif) in an email exchange. Here is how it went:

The last email I sent him on Friday, that says "My comments below" was never refuted. As you can see below, in the first email, I simply told him how much of a fucking moron he is, and so he responded quite rightly that I engaged in personal attacks versus facts. So I took him to task, decided to apply some "facts" and made my points (in bold) on his article below:

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My comments below



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From: Tony Nassif [mailto:TNassifJr@cedarsfoundation.com]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:33 AM
To: Mullen, Tom
Subject: Re: your article


Tom,

I noticed your email contained personal attacks without refutation based on facts. By the way I have dealt with the problem of trafficking for over a decade. It appears you loyalties are to a special interest group rather than reality.

Thanks for writing.



----- Original Message -----
From: Mullen, Tom
To: Tnassifjr@cedarsfoundation.org
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:43 PM
Subject: your article


CALIFORNIA, October 23 /Christian Newswire/ -- Child prostitution in America is a major component of human Trafficking. One root is the break up of the central family of mother, father and children.

Agree

Many young girls fall victim to domestic trafficking by not having a loving father and mother and a secure family structure.

Agree

Prop 8 Marriage Protection Amendment will help hinder human trafficking of children by reinforcing the social structure of the traditional, nuclear family.

WHAT? How will preserving the same legal definition of marriage as current, hinder human trafficking, since as you note above there is and remains and always will be dysfunctional heterosexual marriages, drug induced families, etc. that have nothing to do with gay relationships. You start out above on a very simplistic general cause of child prostitution by arguing that there ARE problems in a Hetero relationship - and always will be regardless whether gay people are granted the rights they deserve.

Human trafficking occurs right here in America. Every year nearly 800,000 children are reported missing. Child prostitution is exponentially growing.

Ok, so? Specify your age range when you say "children". I propose to you that the majority of missing children are because of drug related issues.

Most hear of trafficking overseas. Now there is "reverse trafficking". Predators come to the United States to have sex with children.

Perhaps, but the stats are not as lurid as you make it out to be.

Prop 8 Impact: Child prostitutes predominantly come from broken homes where girls do not have a stable two parent family. Instead they are either thrown away, run away or lured. If these children had the balance of a mother and a father the chances of them falling into the hands of the predator are drastically reduced.

You are not logically following your own twisted facts. Establish the stats where child prostitutes are more prone to come out of same sex parenting because your 800,000 figure pretty much comes from broken families who are straight, numb-rod.

Reinforcing the natural, traditional family of a mother and father by Prop 8 will help build and maintain sound families protecting children. Much more will need to be done i.e. bringing moral integrity to the culture.

Reinforcing to whom? Child who are prone to run away. So your logic is that since a 12 year old whose messed up in the head has neighbors who are a gay couple, then somehow she is adversely effected. What evidence do you show that maintaining a male and female parenting will "further" sound families over same sex parenting? Where is your moral integrity to the culture that impact the 800,000 runaways that you turn the siren on?

Homosexual marriage sets forth an open door for confusion of what is normal. Homosexual acceptance takes away the stability of the societal standard of mother and father.

How? You babble with just plain stupid . Show me evidence where a same sex family is unstable, to make a casual connection between instability and same-sex parenting so at least you can make some fair inferences by comparing relationships. You can't, because statistics support just the opposite.

The mother and father (female and male) provide the emotional, psychological and spiritual needs unique to a father and mother as needed by a boy and girl. This helps provide a sanctuary for children.

Not supported by facts. If they do, why are there 800,000 runaways as you are so concerned about - and I will even dismiss my own thinking that its mostly drug related and put the blame on the parenting. Ok? The parents are hetro's, moron.

Normalizing homosexuality disintegrates standard paradigms of normal sexual behavior and interpersonal relationships between man and woman, boy and girl.

Homosexuality is NOT a behavior douchebag. You are venting in an area which you know nothing about. You are wrong on ALL counts, medically, psychologically, clinically, etc.

Prop 8 will re-establish the Logic and sanctity of traditional marriage and Family is the key to the protection of children from predators: Prop 8 will reestablish the image and standards of normal behavior and relationships which are key to the protection of children from predators. It will provide cultural safety, thereby reducing the likelihood of sexualizing children who have the secure home of a mother and father who embrace them with love.

What the hell are you taking about? ???? You cannot use the word logic when you're illogical.

Tony Nassif is also author of Jesus, Politics and the Church. and president/founder of the Cedars Cultural and Educational Foundation.

Like I said: ( and by the way don't insult my rebuttal with it being simple talking points from an interest group. What is an interest group? when facts are facts, and they prove your stupid comments WRONG and ILLOGICAL.
Sir:

What circus did you obtain your degree at??? Your stupid insidious demagoguery is the root cause of more hate and more dysfunctional families that you write about

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You can tell I have very little tolerance for stupidity with my aggressive emotional tone, huh? Trust me, I don't normally level vulgar comments during debate - but with these folk, how can you not?